录音曝光!特朗普承认故意淡化新冠严重性:“我不想制造恐慌”(附视频&对话稿)
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综合媒体报道,以调查“水门事件”闻名的美国记者鲍勃·伍德沃德的新书“Rage”即将出版,该书揭露了美国总统特朗普早于2020年2月就已知晓新冠病毒的致命性和传染性,但仍坚持淡化疫情的严重性,因为他不想造成恐慌。
特朗普(Donald Trump)对《华盛顿邮报》记者伍德沃德(Bob Woodward)表示,他淡化了冠状病毒大流行的严重性,尽管他的助手曾表示,这将是他作为美国总统将面临的“最艰难的事情”。
新书《Rage》写道,在3月19日的访谈中,特朗普告诉伍德沃德,Covid-19是“致命的东西”,同时公开淡化病毒的严重性。根据两人的电话录音,特朗普告诉了伍德沃德。“我希望一直淡化疫情。我仍希望淡化疫情,因为我不想制造恐慌。”
特朗普在这次对话中还对伍德沃德表示,有关病毒目标人群的一些“惊人事实”刚刚出现:“不只是老年人。年轻人也是,有许多年轻人感染。”
February 7, 2020
Bob: And so, what was President Xi saying yesterday?
Donald Trump: Oh, we were talking mostly about the virus, and I think he’s
going to have it in good shape. But it’s a very tricky situation.
Bob: Indeed, it is.
Donald Trump: It goes through air, Bob. That’s always tougher than the touch.
The touch, you don’t have to touch things, right? But the air, you just breathe
the air and that’s how it’s passed. And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a
very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flus. People
don’t realize, we lose 25,000, 30,000 people a year here. Who would ever think
that, right?
Bob: I know. It’s much forgotten.
Donald Trump: It’s pretty amazing. And then I said, “Well, is that the same
thing?”
Bob: What are you able to do for-
Donald Trump: This is more deadly. This is 5% versus 1%, and less than 1%. So
this is deadly stuff.
March 19, 2020
Donald Trump: Now it’s starting out it’s not just all people, Bob. But just
today and yesterday, some startling facts came out. It’s not just old,
older-
Bob: Yeah. Exactly.
Donald Trump: Young people too. Plenty of young people. We’re looking at
what’s going on in-
Bob: So, give me a moment of talking to somebody, going through this with
Fauci, or somebody who kind of… It caused a pivot in your mind, because it’s
clear just from what’s on the public record, that you went through a pivot on
this to, “Oh my God. The gravity is almost inexplicable and unexplainable.”
Donald Trump: Well, I think Bob, really, to be honest with you-
Bob: Sure. I want you to be.
Donald Trump: I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down
because I don’t want to create a panic.
伍德沃德在他的第二本关于特朗普的书中写道,白宫国家安全顾问奥布莱恩(Robert O 'Brien)在1月份就该病毒对美国构成的严重威胁向总统发出了警告。
据《华盛顿邮报》对该书的描述,奥布莱恩1月28日对特朗普说:“这将是你在总统任期内面临的最大国家安全威胁。”
在接下来一周的电话中,特朗普2月7日告诉伍德沃德,这种病毒比他的公开言论所暗示的要严重得多。
特朗普表示:“你只要呼吸一下空气,它就会传播。它甚至比剧烈的流感还要致命。”
但几周后,特朗普仍公开表态表示,这种病毒将消失。“它将会消失,”他在2月28日说。“病毒会像魔法一样突然消失。”
白宫发言人麦克纳尼9日在例行记者会上面对记者轮番质疑,她表示,特朗普从未在新冠病毒上欺骗美国民众、也从未淡化疫情。麦克纳尼表示,特朗普是在向美国民众传达沉着一面,且政府采取行动以回应病毒蔓延。
同日,特朗普的民主党总统竞选对手拜登(Joe Biden)在密歇根州发表演讲,抨击特朗普的经济计划。
拜登说:“他知道它有多致命,所以故意对它轻描淡写。更糟糕的是,他对美国人民撒谎。他明知故犯地撒谎。他掌握了信息。他知道那有多危险。他没有做好自己的工作——是故意的。这是卑鄙的。这是玩忽职守。”
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President Donald Trump:Apart from matters of war and peace, the nomination of
a Supreme Court Justice is the most important decision an American President can
make. For this reason candidates for President owe the American people a
specific list of individuals they consider for the United States Supreme Court.
Four years ago, I announced my first list of highly qualified candidates and
promise to fill Justice Scalia’s vacant seat from them from among those names.
And just days after my inauguration, I kept that promise when I nominated Judge
Neil Gorsuch. And as you know, he has been very spectacular. A year later, I
nominated and the Senate confirmed another outstanding justice, Brett Kavanaugh.
By the end of my first term, we will have confirmed a record number of federal
judges, over 300, all of whom will faithfully uphold our Constitution as
written. What has always made America exceptional is our reverence for the
impartial rule of law.
President Donald Trump:People have come from all over the world to pursue the
American dream based on this sacred principle. Equality under the law is the
bedrock of our society. It is the principle that inspired American heroes to
abolish slavery and end segregation, secure civil rights and build the most free
and just nation in history. Unfortunately, there is a growing radical left
movement that rejects the principle of equal treatment under the law. If this
extreme movement is granted a majority on the Supreme Court, it will
fundamentally transform America without a single vote of Congress. Radical
Justices will erase the Second Amendment, silence political speech, and require
taxpayers to fund extreme late term abortion. They will give unelected
bureaucrats the power to destroy millions of American jobs. They will remove the
words “Under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance, they will unilaterally declare
the death penalty unconstitutional, even for the most depraved mass murderers.
They will erase national borders, cripple police departments, and grant new
protections to anarchists, rioters, violent criminals, and terrorists.
President Donald Trump: In the recent past, many of our most treasured
freedoms, including religious liberty, free speech, and the right to keep and
bear arms have been saved by a single vote on the United States Supreme Court.
Our cherished rights are at risk, including the right to life and our great
Second Amendment. Over the next four years, America’s President will choose
hundreds of federal judges and in all likelihood, one, two, three, and even four
Supreme Court Justices. The outcome of these decisions will determine whether we
hold fast to our nation’s founding principles or whether they are lost forever.
That is why today I am announcing 20 additions to my original list of candidates
for the United States Supreme Court. Should there be another vacancy on the
Supreme Court during my presidency, my nominee will come from the names I have
shared with the American public, including the original list and these 20
additions.
President Donald Trump: Joe Biden has refused to release his list, perhaps
because he knows the names are so extremely far left that they could never
withstand public scrutiny or receive acceptance. He must release a list of
justices for people to properly make a decision as to how they will vote. It is
very important that he do so. My original list of potential justices include
many of our nation’s brightest legal minds, such as Bill Pryor, Amy Coney
Barrett, and Thomas Hardiman, outstanding people. Like those distinguished
individuals, the 20 additions I am announcing today would be jurors in the mold
of Justice Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Aledo.
President Donald Trump: Their names are as follows: Bridget Bady of Arizona,
Judge on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Daniel Cameron of Kentucky,
Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Paul Clement of Virginia,
Former Solicitor General of the United States. Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas.
Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. Stewart Kyle Duncan of Louisiana, Judge on the Fifth
Circuit Court of Appeals. Steven Engel of the District of Columbia, Assistant
Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel at the Department of Justice.
Noel Francesco, former Solicitor General of the United States. Senator Josh
Hawley of Missouri. James Hoe of Texas, Judge on the Fifth Circuit Court of
Appeals. Gregory Kattsis of Virginia, Judge on the District of Columbia Circuit
Court of Appeals. Barbara Lagoa of Florida, Judge on the 11th Circuit Court of
Appeals. Christopher Landau of Maryland, United States ambassador to Mexico.
Carlos Muniz of Florida, Justice on the Supreme Court of Florida. Martha Packold
of Illinois, Judge on the district court for the Northern District of
Illinois.
President Donald Trump: Peter Phipps of Pennsylvania, Judge on the Third
Circuit Court of Appeals. Sarah Pittlick of Missouri, Judge on the District
Court for the Eastern District of Missouri. Alison Jones-Rushing of North
Carolina, Judge on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. Kate Todd of Virginia,
Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Counsel to the President. Lawrence
van Dyke of Nevada, Judge on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
President Donald Trump: Every one of these individuals will ensure equal
justice, equal treatment and equal rights for citizens of every race, color,
religion, and creed. Together we will defend our righteous heritage and preserve
our magnificent American way of life. Thank you, God bless America. Thank you
very much. Does anybody have any questions on the judges, please? Anybody? On
the judges, excuse me. Any questions? They’re outstanding people. Very important
decision, very important that Joe Biden put up potential nominees. I think it’s
a very important thing for our country that he do that. Okay, please go ahead.
Do you have a question?
Speaker 2: Can you address the concerns from the Woodward book in regards to
whether did you mislead the public by saying how you downplayed the Coronavirus
and that you repeatedly did that in order to reduce panic? Did you mislead the
public?
President Donald Trump: Well, I think if you said in order to reduce panic,
perhaps that’s so. The fact is I’m a cheerleader for this country. I love our
country and I don’t want people to be frightened. I don’t want to create panic,
as you say, and certainly I’m not going to drive this country or the world into
a frenzy. We want to show confidence. We want to show strength. We want to show
strength as a nation and that’s what I’ve done. And we’ve done very well. We’ve
done well from any standard. You look at our numbers compared to other
countries, other parts of the world, it’s been an amazing job that we’ve done. I
think it’s very sad in many respects because the incredible individuals working
so hard on it, including our Vice President, they’ve done this great job. They
haven’t been acknowledged by the news media and they should for the job we’ve
done, whether it’s ventilators.
President Donald Trump: And now you’ll see very soon with vaccines and with
therapeutics, the job we’ve done has been incredible, but we don’t want to
instill panic. We don’t want to jump up and down and start shouting that we have
a problem that is a tremendous problem, scare everybody. And I’ll tell you the
other thing, we immediately started buying all over the world. We started buying
masks and gowns and everything else, and we don’t want to cause pricing to go up
to a level that becomes almost unaffordable. So yeah. And so in that sense, I
agree with it. Yeah. Please
Speaker 3: How do you reassure the American public going forward that they
can trust what you’re saying?
President Donald Trump: Well, I think that’s a really a big part of trust. We
have to have leadership. We have to show leadership. And the last thing you want
to do is create a panic in the country. This was a horrible thing. It was sent
to us by China. Should not have happened, should never have happened. This is a
disgusting, terrible situation that was foisted upon us. And we have to show, we
just don’t want to use, the best word is panic. We don’t want to have to show
panic. We’re not going to show panic. And that’s exactly what I did. And I was
very open, whether it’s to Woodward or anybody else, it’s just another political
hit job. But whether it was Woodward or anybody else, you cannot show a sense of
panic or you’re going to have bigger problems than you ever had before.
Please.
Speaker 4: than trying to reduce the panics that were in February 17th. It’s
more deadly than you’re stressing this flu.
President Donald Trump: Go ahead please.
Speaker 5: Mr. President, don’t you think if you were more forthright with
the American people, more lives could have been saved? Do you take
responsibility at all for some of the 200,000 deaths that we’ve had?
President Donald Trump: So I think if we didn’t do what we did, we would have
had millions of people die. We closed up our country. We close it up very, very
quickly, very effectively. We did a job. We learned about this horrible disease
along with the rest of the world, which had to learn about it. And then we
opened it up and now we know the vulnerable, we know who it attacks, who it’s so
vicious against. And I think we’ve done from every standpoint a incredible job.
We shouldn’t have lost anybody. Nobody should have lost. China released
something that they shouldn’t have been allowed to, they should not have
released. It came out of China, it went to Europe, it went all over the world
should have never happened. They could’ve stopped it. They stopped it from going
into the remainder of China. It started in Wuhan and they stopped it, but they
didn’t stop it from coming to our country.
President Donald Trump: Now we had to show calm. We had to show, if it was up
to you or whoever, I have no idea what he said in the book. And again, it’s a
book that I gave him some quotes and frankly, we’ll see how the book turned out.
I have no idea. You’re asking me questions for the first time. But again, the
last thing we can show is panic or excitement or fear or anything else. We had
to take care of the situation we were given. Long before anybody else wanted to
do it, I closed our borders to a very heavily infected China. If I didn’t do
that, we would have had hundreds of thousands more people die.
President Donald Trump: Dr. Fauci said it, many people said it. It was a
great decision. It was a decision I made and I had to make, it was a decision
that a lot of people thought I was wrong. Nancy Pelosi said I was wrong. Joe
Biden said I was wrong. They all came back and they said it was the right
decision. And I was way early. That was in January. The end of January I did
that. So that was a very good thing we did. Otherwise we would have had hundreds
of thousands more. But if we didn’t close the country, we would have been
talking about millions of people instead of the numbers that we have right
now.
Speaker 6: You mentioned that you were trying to avoid price gouging, but you
mentioned to Bob Woodward that you recognize this virus spread through the year
on February 7th, you didn’t begin Project Airbridge until March. You didn’t use
the Fed Production Act until March. You didn’t start ramping up ventilator
production until March.
President Donald Trump: You didn’t really think it was going to be to the
point where it was. All of a sudden the world was infected. The entire world was
infected. Everyone was scrambling around looking where to buy face masks and all
of the other things. We’ve opened up factories. We’ve had tremendous success
with face masks and with shields and with the ventilators, we’re now supplying
the rest of the world. We have all the ventilators we can use. And remember
this, the ventilators were very important, not one person that needed a
ventilator didn’t get it. And these are very complex, expensive machines to
make.
President Donald Trump: We opened up something like hadn’t been done since
the second World War. Honestly, we’ve done an incredible job, but we don’t want
to run around screaming, shouting, “Oh, look at this. Look at this.” We have to
show leadership. And leadership is all about confidence and confidence is
confidence in our country and our people have been great, we’ve been put through
a lot by China by releasing this, by having this come here, we will put through
a lot. They could have done something about it and they chose not to. I am very
honored to have presented to you today a list of 20 incredible people. And we
will talk later. I’m sure we’ll be meeting later in the day. Thank you very
much.
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