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美国大选进入两周倒计时之际,现任美国总统特朗普和民主党候选人拜登竞选的战鼓也越敲越响,特朗普前脚才离开宾夕法尼亚州,奥巴马后脚就奔赴宾州为拜登举行竞选集会,双方在几个关键摇摆州更是下足了功夫。
据悉,特朗普已打算在最后阶段由一天一场集会改为一天六场集会来争取选民。但可惜截至目前,特朗普的多项民调支持率仍远落后于拜登,仅在一个摇摆州微弱领先于拜登。美国是否会上演“大选惊奇”,特朗普能否逆风翻盘扭转战局,都将在这两周给出答案。
而Nowthis做了一个节目认为,在这次大选中,女性投票者的作用非常关键,甚至有可能成为2020年大选的规则改变者,一起来听听他们怎么说?
Women Will be 
the Game Changers in This Election
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- Hi everyone, I'm Versha Sharma the Senior Correspondent at NowThis and I'm joined today by Debra Cleaver the Founder and CEO of VoteAmerica and Aisha McLendon who is the National Outreach Director for VoteAmerica. We're here to talk about perhaps the most important voting block or group that we have in this election and any election, it's women and particularly women of color. So Deb and Aisha thank you so much for joining us today.
- Thank you for having us.
- So we're just a little over two weeks from the conclusion of voting, right? Early voting and mail in voting has been happening now for some time. The last count I saw was some over 12 million Americans had already cast their ballots. So what are you seeing about voter engagement and turnout right now? Deb, maybe you, cause I know you work a lot with data.
- Sure, I mean we're seeing record turnout compared to this time in 2016, over 50 times as many people have voted and we are on track to have the highest turnout probably over the past hundred years or so. Yeah. So things are looking good, but of course it's not over until it's over, so we won't really know what turnout is like until November 4th of this year, the day after Election Day.
- Now, are you seeing that women voters and women of color voters are more engaged this year, Aisha maybe you can take that one.
- I think, well let me just say that I think women of color are always engaged. I think that they have a little bit more motivation this cycle than they may have in years before, but I think that as a Black woman I will say we take that torch and we will carry it as long as we can. And so it's really great to see all of these Black women bringing their children, bringing their families to the polls, to make sure that they're voting this year.
- Yeah. I think, I'm not sure a lot of people know this, but at least according to census data and Pew research data, in every presidential election since '84 more women actually vote than men do. And I think it saw a little bit of a dip in 2016, but then it went right back up in 2018 and it's hopefully exceeding goals this year. So, like what would you define as success this year in terms of turnout, what would you like to see?
- I mean, success for us would be that the electorate accurately reflects the population in terms of diversity, gender diversity, racial diversity, income diversity. We've never seen that in this country, the electorate is always older, whiter, and wealthier than the population at large and we would like for the electorate to accurately reflect the population. But you are both correct that more women vote than men, but there are more women than men, so that makes sense.
- How have your organizations and partners been working to engage with these more underrepresented groups and to get them to the polls?
- I think, and I'll speak really quickly, I think that we really make an effort to meet people where they are and not where we think that they need to be, especially during times of COVID. And so, we are doing a lot of work on college campuses in making sure if they're not on campus, that we are engaging them at home along with their fellow students. So I think that that's really important that we were able to kind of transition and not think that you can only engage people in one way.
- Now, there are organizations like yours that are doing the work, which is wonderful, but why is it important for campaigns specifically and candidates and their platforms to be inclusive of women of color, minorities, LGBTQ individuals.
- I mean, really the world, our country is kind of like a gumbo pot and so it's all of the things that all of the different individuals make up the country. And so like Deb said earlier, if you only have one person representing it, if you only hear one voice, we are not gonna be representing everyone. For instance, Black women and Black men have different motivations for voting. So you need to hear from those different people to make sure that you're actually representing them.
- Now, do you feel like you've seen more candidates in campaigns and not just at the presidential level, be more inclusive of these voters, do you feel like we've seen improvement in recent years?
- Sure. Yeah. I think that we have seen improvement but I also think that there's so far to go. I think that sometimes we see things that are just surface and it just makes them feel good and I think that there's a lot of deeper work and stronger work that could be done.
- What would you
- (indistinct) Go ahead, Deb. I was gonna piggyback on that and say we're actually seeing a more diverse slate of people run for office. So, I think that a lot of that outreach to traditionally marginalized groups is coming from people who are running for office, who themselves are from traditionally marginalized groups. So, I'm not sure that we could say across the board that political parties are making more of an attempt to engage people, I think we can say some individual candidates are noticeably committed to engaging with voters who are often excluded.
- And obviously so much has been built up to 2020 in this particular election. I just hope people don't lose that energy and momentum and that we keep it up for 2022 midterms and all of the special elections that are coming as well. I'm curious if you've seen an effect from Senator Kamala Harris being the first Black woman on a major party ticket, the first South Asian American on a major party ticket, if you've heard about her from voters in your outreach.
- Oh, we hear from it all the time. One of the great things about VoteAmerica is that we are definitely engaging college students, but we are also engaging students at historically Black colleges, which for me is huge as a graduate of an HBCU, but also it's so important. So to be able to look up and see someone who not only looked like me, but also went to an HBCU, that alone is forcing people to remember that they are eligible to vote and to go out and vote, I think it's just so big. It's historic and yes, we had an African American  president, but he was a male and so this is so huge for us. So huge for people, for the Black and brown community.
- Deb, is there anything you want to add to that?
- I was going to say that Black women are the most reliable voting bloc in America and having a Black woman on that ticket is obviously a big deal. So yeah, I mean, you know presidential ticket is generally a pretty white ticket. Vice presidential ticket, so it's nice to see this, nice to see a woman of color on the ticket.
- And I know, I know that Senator Harris has also, she speaks quite openly and frequently about her Indian heritage as well. I'm Indian American myself and so I'm very curious to see how the AAPI vote might change this year and if that will bring out more voters as well.
- Yeah, that'll be great to see. I think it will.
- Yeah I would say at this
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- Now you.
- Level that representation drives turnout and turn out drives representation, I mean, it's just a healthy ecosystem, the more diverse the candidates the higher the turnout, the higher the turnout, the more diverse the people who are elected to office.
- Now Deb, I understand that you work with tech a lot and have for a long time now, are there any tools that you're excited about using for getting out the vote or for turnout this year? Or how have you seen the different campaigns use that as well in 2020?
- I mean, I like technology in general. It doesn't solve problems, it just amplifies solutions, and so we just built, we just released last week a tool that we're pretty excited about, it's our Where To Vote tool. You can reach it at voteamerica.com/vote and it tells you where your early voting locations are, where your dropboxes are for states that have them and where your Election Day polling place is. And this is really important because we've seen in the past that every time we proactively give people information on where they go to vote, it increases turnout. Also because there are endless shenanigans around polling locations, they change, they close, issues happen, so it's important to have a tool where people can get the most up to date information and we are pulling from multiple data sources. So we have the most accurate and up to date information on where you can go to vote.
- So, it's been a very tough year in 2020, what is something that has inspired you or that has given you hope as we look ahead to the end of this election and the year?
- I'll start. I get hope just talking to first time voters because it reminds me of the first time I voted at Dillard University's campus and how important that is. and when you, how it's kind of set the record for me to keep going and keep doing that and why I keep doing it. So, hearing them talk about it and seeing photos of them going and doing the same thing I did, 20 something years ago is pretty awesome.
- And for me, it would just be the fact that we're on track to have record high turnout and even when people try to suppress the vote, it is not working. You can close the polls and people stay in lines and they call the election protection hotline, you can remove the dropboxes and people find ways to drop them off. Americans are going to vote this year and they're making that abundantly clear to anyone who's trying to stop them.
- I agree, Americans are very committed. I think, to being heard and I can't wait to see what the results are. Deb and Aisha, thank you both so much for your time and work. I hope to have more conversations like this with you soon. Thanks so much.
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